9 thoughts on “Q&A: How Much Alcohol is Permissible? | Dr. Shabir Ally

  1. Ralph Cravey

    Jesus said:

    The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him. (John 8:29, NKJV)

    Jesus changed the water into wine at the wedding in Cana. (John 2:1-10) We are supposed to use artos (bread made with yeast) and oinos (wine with alcohol) in the Eucharist. Water is supposed to be put in with the wine. The prophecy about the Eucharist in Proverbs 9:5 says the wine is "mixed." Blood and water came from Jesus' side when He was on the Cross. (John 19:34) As for the Eucharist, Jesus said:

    Do this in remembrance of Me. (Luke 22:19)

    We need wine so that we can obey Jesus and observe the Eucharist.

    The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His Scriptures and His messengers – We make no distinction between any of His messengers – and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (Quran 2:285, Pickthall)

    Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (Quran 3:84, Pickthall)

    Lo! those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers, and seek to make distinction between Allah and His messengers, and say: We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and seek to choose a way in between; such are disbelievers in truth; and for disbelievers We prepare a shameful doom.But those who believe in Allah and His messengers and make no distinction between any of them, unto them Allah will give their wages; and Allah was ever Forgiving, Merciful. (Quran 4:150-152, Pickthall)

    Muhammad received no new revelations (Quran 41:43) and was not an innovator among the messengers (Quran 46:9). He accepted the Bible that Orthodox Christians used. (Quran 29:46) The Quran confirms the Bible. (Quran 5:48) In those verses I quoted from the Quran (Quran 2:285; 3:84; 4:150-152), the Quran teaches us to obey the messengers that came before Muhammad and make no distinction among any of them. Therefore, we should obey Jesus and observe the Eucharist. We need wine in order to properly observe the Eucharist. It is supposed to be grape wine. (Luke 22:18)

    The Quran, therefore, does not forbid the use of wine.

  2. Didou

    Maliki school discussed that a long time ago : you can, cause of the 'urf (customs of one place), accept in a hallal recipe one element judged, all alone, as makrouh or haram, if it doesn't corrupt all the recipe. so vinegar in salad, rhum in cakes, white vine in risotto etc…

  3. Richard Crosby

    I think that the concentration is very important. If it is in such a low concentration that you cannot become intoxicated from it after consuming it in a large amount, let alone through normal consumption (e.g. soy sauce and vanilla extract), the prohibition should be regarded as non-applicable to the situation. It should also be treated as non-applicable when the alcohol undergoes a chemical change, such as in the case of vinegar.

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